Making Friends Along the Way - with special guests Boss and Russell

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On this episode of The Ballpark Boys, we'll share

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how a rain delay turned into one of the best

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baseball experiences imaginable. And we'll reconnect

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with another father and son we met on our recent

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baseball road trip. Here we go. It's episode

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three of The Ballpark Boys. I know it has been

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a little while since our last episode dropped

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Jackson, but we've been busy. Yeah. No excuse,

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in my opinion. Yeah. So we do officially have

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a new addition to the show. Jenny Bunny is now

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an official contributor to The Ballpark Boys

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podcast. Welcome. Thank you, I think. Yeah. She

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brings a lot of life. to the podcast. I think

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she makes us funnier, Jackson. What do you think?

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I agree. I think you guys like when I don't know

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something and you laugh at me. That's what makes

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it funnier. There are various elements that add

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to the dynamic. But I think when you're here,

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it's a lot of, you know, the way that things

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are around our dinner table at home. And I think

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that's a fair dynamic to bring to our conversation.

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So. Jenny Bunny will be joining us for the majority

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of these conversations now, Jackson. And I think

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that's an improvement, right? I think we should

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say Jenny Bunny will be on this episode and future

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episodes TBD. OK, yeah, whatever makes you happy.

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But this episode, as I was saying, we've been

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busy. Jackson, you have been playing baseball

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at one point. You were on three different teams,

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Rec Ball, Little League and Travel Ball, right?

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three teams at the same time that's a whole lot

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of baseball. It is. I was coaching some of that

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so you know that takes up a little bit of time.

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I was doing scoreboard and game changer and snack

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mom. See a fantastic contributor already to the

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ballpark boys. Thank you Jenny for making it

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all happen. And of course we've been traveling

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quite a bit our current ballpark count as of

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the recording of this episode July 2026. How

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many ballparks are we at Jackson? 64? Not quite.

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62. But we'll be to 64 soon, I'm sure. But our

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biggest collection of new dates was spring break

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this year when we got out there and we saw games

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in eight new ballparks over the course of seven

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days. That's a lot of baseball. And Jackson is

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holding up fingers. No one can hear your fingers

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on the podcast. Isn't it nine because of that

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old stadium? That was the eighth. That was the

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eight in seven days. We went to Rickwood. And

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we'll be talking about all of this stuff on future

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episodes of the Ballpark Boys. We actually did

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a bunch of interviews along the way that will

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be coming to the Ballpark Boys podcast very,

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very soon. And we ourselves were interviewed

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a few times. Twice on TV, once on the radio.

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John and Jackson Manuel, the ballpark boys. A

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unique father -son duo that's put in the miles,

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as we like to say, across the southeast. John

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and Jackson Manuel doing quite the spring break

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road trip. This father -son duo, they're from

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California, but they're just hitting ballparks

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all across the country. Jackson, what did you

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think of those experiences being on the other

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end of the interview process? They were a little

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nerve wracking, but In the end, they were fun.

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What did you like more, TV or radio? TV. Why?

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Because you think you're cute. You are. Thank

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you, but no. They just seemed more interactive.

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And the other thing that we've been doing over

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the past few months is really focusing on content

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on our social platforms. TikTok, Instagram. YouTube

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at The Ballpark Boys. Please, if you're not already,

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go and follow us on those platforms and you can

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see all these videos, including some of the interviews

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that you just heard little clips of. They're

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all posted up there now. So later in this episode,

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we will hear from some new friends that we made

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on that Spring Break road trip. But right now,

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one of my favorite ballpark experiences ever

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happened on that Spring Break road trip. It was

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ballpark number 54. Can you guess which one I'm

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thinking about, Jackson? Braves? Nope. Couple

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of days after that, we saw the Memphis Redbirds.

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Oh, yeah. The ballpark, boys. April 2nd, 2026,

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the Norfolk Tides were the visiting team playing

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the Memphis Redbirds. Tell us about the seats

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that we had for that game. They were so cool.

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We sat right next to the dugout. We got to meet

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some of the players. Yeah, and I was just going

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to say by the end of the game, you were on some

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pretty good terms with some of the guys in the

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dugout, right? Yeah. What do you remember most

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about the ballpark? It's surprisingly big for

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a minor league stadium. I love that you said

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that and that you recognize that. Do you know

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why? No, I don't know why. So. AutoZone Park

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is the name of this park. It's in downtown Memphis.

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It opened in the year 2000. And at the time it

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was built, 26 years ago, it cost $80 million.

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Whoa. And at the time, that was the most expensive

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facility ever constructed for minor league baseball.

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And the architects designed it specifically because

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they wanted it to meet major league baseball

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specifications. So that's why it's so big is

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because they wanted to make it so that if Memphis

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were to ever get a Major League Baseball team,

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this park could be modified and hold enough people

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to meet the guidelines of Major League Baseball.

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Isn't that fun? So you're saying that the Memphis

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Minor League team is playing in a bigger and

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better ballpark than the A's currently? Okay,

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yep, the Athletics, which don't currently have

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a city designation in front of their name. They're

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just known as the Athletics. But yes, they do

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play at Sutter Health Park in West Sacramento,

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California. I would say the Memphis ballpark

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is better than Sutter Health. It's more up -to

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-date. And bigger. Bigger, definitely bigger.

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They have multiple levels, including like club

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and yeah, it's. But you would argue that seeing

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Major League Baseball in a small stadium like

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Sutter Park. Sutter Health Park, yep. Sutter

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Health Park is kind of an awesome and amazing

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experience. It is, it's a great experience, but

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I would say that the ballpark in Memphis is better

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than the ballpark in West Sacramento. Gotcha.

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I just don't think the athletics had any interest

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in playing. Anyway, we went on this weird tangent,

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but - That's what I'm here for. Yeah, thank you.

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You know I like to go on tangents. Yep, yep,

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absolutely. I'm sure we'll hear more of those.

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But I loved the ballpark. It's right in the heart

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of downtown Memphis, which is such a cool experience.

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Like we walked around and we saw Beale Street

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where all these iconic like blues venues are.

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And we stayed right across the street at the

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Peabody Hotel, which has a duck master. And Jackson

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got to hang out with the duck master for a day.

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That was pretty cool, right? Yeah. And you can,

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again, see like Jackson's Duckmaster experience

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on Instagram, YouTube, TikTok at the Ballpark

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Boys. But these guys in the dugout that you got

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tight with, how did that come about? It was a

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huge rain delay, like a good 30 minutes to an

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hour. And it just started pouring out of nowhere.

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Yeah. Um, and we stayed the entire time. We stayed

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for the end of the game. And I think that earned

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you a lot of points, Jackson, because the rain

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is just pouring at one point. Everyone left.

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Everyone left. Or at least everyone retreated

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up to the concourse where, you know, they had

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coverage from the rain. But Jackson was still

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hanging out next to the dugout, which the players

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were hanging out in, getting soaking wet with

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a baseball, asking them to sign it. And I think

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you earned some respect from the players as that

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was happening. Yeah, definitely. You not only

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walked away with a signed baseball from a bunch

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of guys who were on the field that day, but what

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did the manager, Ben Johnson, give you on your

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way out after the game? He gave me his lineup

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card for the game. It was pretty awesome. I have

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never seen anyone actually, I've heard about

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it, but I've never seen anyone actually receive

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a lineup card from a manager. And you still got

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that, right? Like in your room with that ball?

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Yeah. It was such a good team. Three of those

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guys who we saw play in April are now on the...

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St. Louis Cardinals they got called up from Memphis

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Redbirds the triple -a team to the st. Louis

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Cardinals Brian Torres Cesar Prieto and blaze

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Jordan and they all signed your ball pretty cool

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Yep, and you also get to go on the field Because

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again this rain delay happened in and you know

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no shade But a lot of people left so by the end

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of the game there were maybe 20 of us But they

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still wanted to do like the on -field promotions

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and contests and stuff So what did you get to

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go on the field and do? Sunflower toss. The camera

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was on you. The host was like, ah, and here's

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Jackson. I threw a bean bag into a bucket full

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of sunflowers and I got to take the seeds home.

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It's pretty cool in game promotion. Maybe that

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was like their D list. since there were only

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20 people there. Yeah, it was one of the first

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games of the season. I think, you know, the in

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-game host was really just trying to kind of

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get his reps in. But, you know, you got to get

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on the field there and score even more points

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with the players there on the Memphis City Redbirds.

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That was such a cool experience. My only observation

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that I thought was kind of weird about the ballpark,

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they don't serve Coke or Pepsi. They serve RC.

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Hmm. That just seems they're old school. Yeah,

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this was the first year they served RCE though.

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What did they serve the year prior? Either Coke

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or Pepsi, I forget. Oh. But I was talking to

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one of the bartenders and she's like, yep, all

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we've got is RCE. I don't know if I've ever had

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RCE. A couple of days before the game in Memphis,

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we met a father and son who were also on a baseball

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road trip. And right now, we're calling Russell

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and his son Boss on FaceTime to check in. Russell.

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Boss. How you doing, bud? The last time we saw

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you guys was in Atlanta, Georgia at the Braves

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game. And it just so happened that we had seats

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right next to you, basically, in left field for

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that game. And we just started talking and realized

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that you guys were on a similar quest to do a

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similar thing. That's kind of a crazy way the

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stars align for that. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, we

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were talking about that, that the happenstance

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is to make that happen. The stars definitely

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align properly. It just opened my eyes. You know,

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it made me wonder how many other fathers and

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sons are out there doing the exact same thing

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that we are. Oh, absolutely. We were thinking

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the same thing. So after the Braves, that was...

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towards the beginning of your road trip that

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you guys were on, right? It was kind of actually

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right in the middle. Where did you go afterwards?

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I think you said that you were going to end up

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in Louisville. Yeah, sorry. Yeah, actually, after

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that, we went and the next night we were back

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in Atlanta for the Georgia Tech -Auburn game

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at Georgia Tech. I love it. Which was a, the

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energy was unbelievable at that game. That was

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boss's favorite game that we went to. Then the

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following night, that Wednesday, we drove up

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to Charlotte at the Knight Stadium. They had

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Wake Forest Clemson and he's a diehard Clemson

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fan. I'm Wake Forest through and through and

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Wake Forest run ruled on that game. So it was

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a very wonderful game for me. Congratulations.

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Appreciate that. He talks a lot of trash to me

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during football season. So it was nice to earn

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one back. Absolutely. That was for a little while.

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I love it. Love it. Then we drove the next day

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over to Louisville and my mom lives right outside

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of Louisville in Indiana. So we drove in, we

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had a little family reunion at the game. And

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all my cousins and my uncle and whatnot met us

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there. And then we drove on back with my mom

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the next day and got on home. And it sounds like

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there's so many parallels because a big part

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of the reason that we enjoy doing this is so

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we can see people along the way, whether it's

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friends or family or just get to parts of the

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country that we might not otherwise get to. And

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just seeing people and being able to spend time

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in person and, like you said, have little mini

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family reunions. And that's something that I've

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come to appreciate so much is the time spent

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in the car. where it's just dad and son and,

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you know, you guys are just hanging out and having

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conversations that might not happen if you weren't

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confined in such a small space. We talk about

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that all the time, don't we? The ride's the best

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part of the trip. It's seeing what you see, the

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time, like you say, the time spent together,

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seeing the world's largest roller skate along

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the way or whatever else you can find. We're

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never gonna get this time back. And we're both

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at a point where our kids are willing to spend

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some time with us. And I just feel like it's

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the most magical time in the world for me that

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we get to do something that we're all enjoying

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at the same time. It's so, so cool. Absolutely.

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And if anything you can wrap up in baseball,

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it just makes it that much better. Exactly. Is

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there any little lesson that you feel like you've

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learned along the way or you've kind of taken

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with you from this experience? Just experience

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every bit that we can. Like, everybody tells

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me, you know, they're, oh, I can't believe y

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'all are doing so much. You know, I don't see

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how you can. keep up with it, you know, you need

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to slow down. Even this one gets tired on me

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sometimes and you know, oh, do we have to go

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to another one? Yeah, we do. And we're gonna

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make it and we're gonna push through and because

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we're never gonna get this time back. So we got

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to make the most of it while we can. You're saying

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exactly the things that I say to this guy all

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the time. I love that he's hearing it from someone

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else. And what's your ballpark count right now?

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We've been at 23 different parks because we go

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to like the Biloxi Park that's near here. They

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have a lot of like the Charlotte Knights had

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the Wake Forest Clemson game and whatnot. So

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they have like they have Southern Miss versus

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Mississippi State and so on. So we go to some

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of the same venues, but so far we're at 23 parks,

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but we've seen 30, I wanna say it's 36 or 37

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different teams in baseball. That's interesting.

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Jackson, you got some questions for Boss or Russell?

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What was your guys' favorite ballpark? Probably

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Clemson. Clemson was cool. He had a really nice

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field. I don't say mine was the Braves. Nick

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Kurtz is absolutely my favorite player, watching

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him all the way through college and so forth,

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getting to see him and watch him at the ballpark

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and meeting y 'all and just the whole experience

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was just, it was surreal. What has your favorite

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food been? The giant pizza at the Atlanta Braves

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game, definitely. Mine would have to be the barbecue

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macaroni and cheese at Clemson. Sounds delicious.

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The pulled pork in North Carolina is unmatched.

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So putting that on a tub of macaroni and cheese

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is the best stuff in the world. Makes sense.

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Well, I got a question for you. Who's your favorite

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player? Mookie, Shohei, and Yamamoto are all

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tied. That's a good trio right there. It's something

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that I appreciate so much, you know, obviously

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Jackson growing up in LA, he's a Dodgers fan,

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and I think it helps put in perspective that

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not every team out there is the Dodgers, but

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baseball is so cool regardless, right? Like,

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it's so important to me that he understands that,

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that not most kids get to see their favorite

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team win the World Series back -to -back years

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with such this powerhouse team. We can have just

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as much fun, if not more fun, at like a Memphis

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Redbirds game, right? That game was super fun.

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That team showed so much hustle. I love those

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kinds of experiences where you see that, man,

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you can have just as much fun, if not a little

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bit more, at some of these smaller venues that

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don't have all the hype behind them. Oh, absolutely.

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And speaking in terms of watching your favorite

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team win the World Series, I'm a Pirates fan,

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so enjoy. We are the Major League's farm team,

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so... Make sure you enjoy, absolutely. And we

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met at a Braves A's game, and the A's have been

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my team for a long time, so we know exactly how

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it feels. Absolutely. To equip the majors. Well,

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I so appreciate, you know, being able to link

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up and stay in touch with you guys. Why don't

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you shout out, I know you've got a TikTok where

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you're sharing some of these adventures that

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you guys are on as well. Absolutely. How do people

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find that? Go underscore Deeks. Hey, you guys

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got some great stuff on there. Is that a tag

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team on the content front? Oh yeah, absolutely.

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I do a lot of the video and whatnot and then

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he gets to do all most of the editing and the

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putting it together at the end because I'm still

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learning how all this. I'm very new to social

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media, so. You and me both. We've got to rely

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on the kids. And once again, there are just so

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many layers to this little adventure that both

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of us are on, respectively, where we get to learn

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from them. They get to, you know, maybe learn

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a thing here and there from us. And it's just,

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I love that we found someone who are on a very

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similar journey and quest. And, you know, I so

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look forward to keeping in touch and seeing how

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the adventure goes for you guys, too. Oh, definitely.

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We're definitely going to keep in touch and make

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sure we... Hook up when we can when we're on

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our adventures. Absolutely. We're gonna make

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it to the west coast. Well when that happens

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Absolutely, let us know I know you were just

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talking about Biloxi and you know, we want to

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see the shuckers one of these days So whenever

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that happens, we definitely got a got a link

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up on your turf, too. Oh, absolutely They actually

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just got voted the seventh best minor league

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park in the nation. Oh, that's huge We actually

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started going to the games because when Wake

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Forest went to the college world series in 23,

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I believe Their third baseman got drafted by

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Milwaukee, and he's been playing for the Shuckers.

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And Boss got to be so close friends with them,

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they were on a first name basis when they walked

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into the park together. It was... It was really

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nice to be able to get to see the guys we watch

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on TV all the time. That is what baseball is

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all about, making those connections and seeing

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these guys. Like you said, you're on a first

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-name basis. You get to know him, and I'm sure

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he remembers you up in the big leagues. Absolutely.

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Well, until the next one, let's stay in touch,

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and please let me know when you make it out to

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the West Coast. We'd love to link up. Sounds

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good. Y 'all have a good one. It's that portion

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of the podcast where mom joins us. on the money

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with Jenny Bunny to break down the financial

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side of baseball. What you got for us today,

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Jenny? I want to talk about the different types

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of fans and travel and how much they spend. I

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guess there are kind of different calibers of

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traveling fan, huh? Definitely. First, I'll give

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you the categories and then I want you to tell

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me which one you think you might be before I

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give you the details of each category. OK. So

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we've got frugal. Standard and luxury. Now, maybe

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there's a difference between who you are and

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who you want to be. Yeah. I mean, we're definitely

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not luxury, right? Yeah. I mean, we're not going

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fancy by any means on these trips. Standard,

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I'm not sure. I tend to think of ourselves as

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frugal, right? Like, we rent a car and we drive

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and we get the hotel buffet and we're not going

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fancy on these trips. What do you think, bud?

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I'd agree for some of the trips. Well, why don't

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you break it down and kind of let us know what

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those differentiations mean. All right, so we'll

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start with frugal, which I always love. The fans

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that are frugal tend to sleep in their cars.

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OK, that's not us. OK, never mind. I take that

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back. I'm not sleeping in a car. They use credit

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card points for flights. OK, that's smart. We

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do that. We do. Yeah. They might travel on a

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mega bus. Ooh. to get around. Never heard of

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that. Yeah, I don't think I would do that either.

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Yeah, I like having a rental car because it just

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gives you a little bit more freedom. And honestly,

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like rental cars are not that expensive when

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you go kind of day by day. But please continue.

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Especially if you get a refund on your rental

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car when you find it cheaper right before you

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travel. That is such a helpful tip. I do that

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all the time. You book a rental car, right? You

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don't prepay it. You just reserve it. And then

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like a week or two before you go check again.

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And very often, the same car is like 40 % cheaper

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when you book it a lot closer. Yeah, I feel like

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that's happened like the last three trips we've

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taken. John will come in and say, oh, I rebooked

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the rental car and we saved 40%. Yeah, literally

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like with the same company, the same exact car,

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you just go back and cancel your original reservation

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and save a bunch of money. Yeah, the key is don't

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prepay. The other thing they do is they buy cheap

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seats right before the first pitch, which. You

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know, I feel like you guys have done that a time

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or two. Like if you decide to go to a last minute

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game nearby locally or something. Yeah, that's

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easy. That gives me a little bit of anxiety,

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though, like showing up to a ballpark and not

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having actual tickets when we get there. I don't

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know. I think it depends on who they're playing.

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Like you can't just show up to Dodger Stadium

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and expect to buy tickets right before the first

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pitch. But maybe like. Where the A's play if

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they're playing somebody not super popular, you

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know, you never know. Anyway, okay. The frugal

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fan also sneaks in their own peanuts and water

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bottle. And I wouldn't say frugal. I'd say smart,

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especially water. Like, I think we talked about

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this on a different podcast, how expensive concessions

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are. So if they let you bring in your water bottle,

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even if it's empty when you enter the park and

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fill it up there. By all means, save yourself

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$6. That's one of our requirements when we're

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at games. I'm like, Jackson, you got your water

00:22:04.029 --> 00:22:06.329
bottle? And so many stadiums, basically all of

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them, that we've been to recently have those

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water refill stations that fill up the water

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bottles. Specifically for water bottles. Super

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quickly. Yeah. Super handy. The final thing a

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Frugal fan does, they will skip the official

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stadium parking, even if that means that they

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have to walk two miles where they can get free

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street parking. not have to deal with premium

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prices up to, like, $40 to $60. We do that a

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lot. We do that sometimes. A two -mile walk,

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I feel like that's not your jam, Jackson. Not

00:22:36.900 --> 00:22:40.000
two miles, but... But the Frugal fan will walk

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up to two miles. And here's the thing about the

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walk. Before the game, it sounds like a great

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idea, but after you've been sitting there for

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nine innings, sometimes, you know, that late

00:22:49.799 --> 00:22:52.259
-night walk is a little bit longer than it seems

00:22:52.259 --> 00:22:53.920
on the way there. It's either really nice or

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not nice at all. Moving on to the next fan, we're

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gonna talk about the standard fan, which, you

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know, I guess. It's kinda normal is what standard

00:23:02.140 --> 00:23:03.859
sounds like. I don't like the word normal. Okay.

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Because nothing is normal. But standard, probably

00:23:07.779 --> 00:23:10.640
the majority of fans, I like that word better,

00:23:10.940 --> 00:23:13.680
majority. It's usually a parent and child, couple

00:23:13.680 --> 00:23:15.720
of friends doing a three to four day regional

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road trip. They might fly to and from a destination.

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That sounds like the way we do it, but I think

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we're the standard fans. Yeah. They're also willing

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to drive a few hundred miles to get around. Yep.

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Yep. We do lots of driving. Yeah. They stay in

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standard mid -tier hotels. Got it. So yeah, we

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stay in a lot of best westerns and Marriott's

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and airfieldings and stuff like that. And they

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buy decent lower level seats and... absolutely

00:23:44.079 --> 00:23:46.380
budget for the stadium experience, meaning at

00:23:46.380 --> 00:23:49.359
least one signature local food item, a local

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craft beer or soda, and a souvenir hat or a pin,

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every single stadium they go to. Yeah, I'd say

00:23:55.559 --> 00:23:57.119
that's us. That sounds like us. We're the standard

00:23:57.119 --> 00:23:59.319
fans with a touch of frugal. And at the end of

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this, I'll tell you how much each category pays

00:24:02.079 --> 00:24:05.890
typically. So the luxury fan... This I did not

00:24:05.890 --> 00:24:07.930
know when I was doing my research. There's actually

00:24:07.930 --> 00:24:11.150
premium sports travel companies that cater to

00:24:11.150 --> 00:24:15.829
fans. Which I don't think we've ever used. I

00:24:15.829 --> 00:24:18.150
didn't even know about it. The luxury fan will

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stay in a four to five star hotel right next

00:24:20.190 --> 00:24:22.769
to the ballpark. The luxury fan will also get

00:24:22.769 --> 00:24:26.210
premium club level tickets. With those tickets

00:24:26.210 --> 00:24:30.069
you might get free food or free drinks. So I

00:24:30.069 --> 00:24:32.480
think sometimes it might be worth it. I don't

00:24:32.480 --> 00:24:37.140
know about that. $1 ,000 for food and drinks.

00:24:37.440 --> 00:24:39.960
Eat $1 ,000 worth of hot dogs, Jackson. I bet

00:24:39.960 --> 00:24:43.579
he could do it. Yeah. I'm not so sure. Ice cream,

00:24:43.799 --> 00:24:47.299
yes. The luxury fan may also, depending on how

00:24:47.299 --> 00:24:50.119
big their group is, charter a private bus in

00:24:50.119 --> 00:24:52.460
between cities. That would be fancy. Watch some

00:24:52.460 --> 00:24:54.640
movies, not have to drive, take a nap when you

00:24:54.640 --> 00:24:56.119
want. I guess that's what Jackson does in the

00:24:56.119 --> 00:24:58.059
backseat while I'm driving. But I think bigger

00:24:58.059 --> 00:25:01.400
groups of adults maybe? Yeah. But also the luxury

00:25:01.400 --> 00:25:03.920
fan will pay for private behind the scenes stadium

00:25:03.920 --> 00:25:06.759
tours and access before the general public. You

00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:09.980
may be able to enter the ballpark early and watch

00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:14.299
What's it called? Batting practice. Batting practice.

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So the Frugal fan will spend between $150 and

00:25:20.619 --> 00:25:23.920
$250 total per city. But they're sleeping in

00:25:23.920 --> 00:25:26.279
their cars. Right. And they're walking two miles.

00:25:26.819 --> 00:25:30.299
The standard fan spends about $600 to $1 ,000

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per person. on a multi -game trip, if they're

00:25:33.740 --> 00:25:35.740
doing like a road trip. Sounds reasonable. That's

00:25:35.740 --> 00:25:38.059
like summer vacation, right? Yeah, okay. Different

00:25:38.059 --> 00:25:40.539
ways to do it. The luxury fan, though, can spend

00:25:40.539 --> 00:25:44.440
up to $1 ,000 per day. Wow! Easily. Yeah, easily.

00:25:44.819 --> 00:25:46.720
What do you think, Jenny? Are we gonna be luxury

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baseball travelers in retirement? Maybe. I think

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right now when you guys go, you should be frugal.

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And when I come along, we should be luxury. Of

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course you do. You're not on that word. Now it's

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time for the giveaway. Yes, indeedy. We are passing

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along a giveaway from the Memphis Redbirds game

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we went to. So you know, Bud, when like the promotion

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crew is on top of the dugout and they're throwing

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shirts out to the stands? Yeah, yeah. So at this

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Redbirds game that we've been talking about,

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by the end, there were like 25 of us in the stands.

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that rained out game, which meant that basically

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everyone there got a shirt. And I was one of

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the people who caught one of these shirts that

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a tradition to close out every episode of the

00:27:18.009 --> 00:27:22.109
Ballpark Boys with some words of baseball wisdom.

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So this guy was a Hall of Fame catcher for the

00:27:25.529 --> 00:27:29.049
New York Yankees, a 10 time World Series champion,

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one of the greatest players to ever play the

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game of baseball, Yogi Berra. And I love this

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quote for so many reasons. I want you to really

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hear this quote and I want you to think about

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what it means, Jackson. When you come to a fork

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in the road, take it. What do you think that

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means? Oh boy. When you come to a fork in the

00:27:51.890 --> 00:27:58.410
road, take it. Um, maybe like... When you get

00:27:58.410 --> 00:28:01.630
two different options both are good take them

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I love that interpretation the way that I look

00:28:04.230 --> 00:28:07.329
at it is That you just kind of keep moving and

00:28:07.329 --> 00:28:09.349
really there's no wrong answer, right? Sometimes

00:28:09.349 --> 00:28:12.230
people spend so much time trying to decide between

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left or right or left or right Which way do I

00:28:14.349 --> 00:28:17.049
go just just pick away and it's gonna be an adventure

00:28:17.049 --> 00:28:21.829
college or combine Someone's been playing MLB

00:28:21.829 --> 00:28:25.019
the show quite a bit, huh? Yeah But either way,

00:28:25.140 --> 00:28:26.980
left or right, it's gonna be an adventure. You're

00:28:26.980 --> 00:28:29.660
gonna have a good time. Chances are. So loving

00:28:29.660 --> 00:28:32.740
that quote from Yogi Berra. Thank you so much

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for listening to our third episode here of The

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